what is your opinion of satyam jain UNDERSTAND UPSC ?

bhai ye fake cheezein na falao.. this is not genuine. sir has guided so many people with his prelims tricks.. this cannot be true.. i can see so many haters here..

5 min ke liye hi sahi Md Zubair wali feeling aa rahi yeh dekh ke

How easy it is to lable something fake 

Pehle wale argument diya cut off se kam kaise 

But he didn't know sir economically backward society se form bharte hai

So ews cut off is less obviously

Ek ki argument ki sir ne toh itno ko guide kiya hai apno trick se toh unki toh chali hi hogi khud

Par kya kare Sach is Truth we need to accept

Btw mains pass karne walo ke list mai ek hi satyam jain hai jiska yeh markseet hai

Ab aap kaho ki sir ne naam badal diya toh woh baat alag hai 

Didn't wanted to post this but i have SIR's email, address actually everyone has it because agar pata na ho toh bata du upsc non recommended candidates ki list publish karti hai Civil services 2022 ki list dekh lena aur search satyam jain

Aur iss saal there's one candidate with name Satyam jain in Mains successful candidates as you know apke sir ne Interview diya hai.. no in fact Interviewssss diye hai so us roll number pe yeh wali date of birth daal ke dekhna yeh you will get the results

"Itne bhi bure din nhi aye ki Satyam ki marksheet edit karte baithu"

pointing fingers at understand upsc.. but noone is asking questions to forum when

1) they are claiming rank 15 Kunal rastogi ( without testimonial!! On testimonial page ) when he was guided by satyam Jain sir which he is saying on video

2) neyawn sir says satyam Jain sir video led to "negative impact" on result of forum students.. how ?

3) poaching people sharing mobile number of toppers so that "every coaching can claim topper" - business tactics of coaching people.

4) every year forum claims ranks.. and says 50%  selected students are from forum.. but don't say out of how many stundents.. not a fair practice...

Aks these questions first to poachings.

bro, you should be ashamed of yourself. there is a huge difference between satyam sir whom you are trying to promote...and shivin sir.. just saw this

the whole attitude and body language of satyam sir is manipulative, trying to blame others while he himself does the same with impunity..

i hope this is not satyam sir himself..

with due respect bhai... how do u knw satyam sir is manipulative when noone has seen sir.. how did u see his "body language? "

@Neyawn sir, perhaps u shd be mor wrrid bout dis

@neywan Sir, would it be possible for you to meet? I am in delhi, looking for some guidance. Please let me know how I can get in touch with you.

@HarveySpecter ! Check your inbox!

Sir i am unable to see your reply

Though I feel that you have plenty of time, and you are probably not writing the exam this year, I will adress some of your questions for the very last time. I suggest you focus on the exam, and do not vitiate the atmosphere here.

...1.. It may be the case that the said student may have taken some guidance from multiple places. He was doing things at  forum pretty well - at least that what I felt before and after his result., And everyone is not Kunal. He is a bureaucrat's kid. Parent is in All India Service , has had good education- he knows how to separate garbage from gyan. he was a pretty diligent student who wrote ( I think ) every single test at Forum. He was doing MGP year long, and he extracted max value out of it. sharing his copy and mentor session records. We do not expect anymore credit from him than what he has already given. 

..2.. When I said it impacts our students and results, I do not mean the numbers. The number of student getting selected from forum will always be more than half and nearly 2/3rd of all selected students - excluding the Interview program. That ground work and deep work that is needed for that has been done.

Look, Civils prep is a demanding thing. What separates people who clear it in one go, vs those who do not - everything said and done - in the end it will come down to clarity. People who clear know what is to be done - they do limited things - they do it well and they clear it... But while you are doing it, you need to have faith in what you are doing. Its like mountain climbing, knowing that if you fall  - the rope / harness shall save you. 

Imagine your self climbing a steep cliff and someone tells you the rope that you are hanging from will break. It isnt strong. Now you can neither go up nor go down. That is how people get stuck.

So when people use or brand name, and spread disinformation, what they do is that - the weakly resolved student - who is already having a tough time - is confused. That student does not fully trust Youtube videos either, but now he thinks writing tests wont work - and he does not.  In short he is confused. The minute he is confused, he is gone. That attempt is wasted. People with better guidance, or those who can cut the social media noise, they end up doing well, but not everyone can do that.

I had a girl from Jharkhand mail to me after watching youtube videos, and I knew her 2023 attempt is gone. ( She is actually gone , she didnt write any tests, nor came for interview, and isnt in the final list ). It was her first Mains. Not everyone can financially afford to prepare for this exam again and again.

Am saying this because when I was seeing copies of students before Mains, I saw mostly all old students copies - so much so that first time people writing Mains were not writing tests only! Why - because they trusted the youtube campaigns ? No, because they now were confused what to do.

One of the ways to fail someone in UPSC is to make him doubt his strategy. 

While students joined MGP, they did not write tests - to the point that when we looked for good copies, we were not getting too may new people writing tests.

And when mock interviews happened, I was seeing ALL the same people whom I had taken mocks last year and last to last year. While this happens every year - the absence of a large number of fresh candidates was alarming!

And while last year 1000+ students registered with forum for interview guidance, this time it was 1900+ students!! Most of the were all students from last year!

As a mentor it is nostalgic to meet old people, and it feels good, but it is also exciting to meet new people and new people were simply too less in number.

Also in October- December so many people started writing MGP tests * after the mains** that I was alarmed. Fir pata chala ki Mains de diya but did not write the test, after mains they are writing tests for nxt year.

This was numercially so visible that during mains we did not have any copy checking delays - which happens because thousands of people suddenly like to write the tests at the last moment. And after Mains copies were being checked in 7-10 days because mgp 2023 students were writing mgp testsafterthe mains was over, as they felt lack of practice and feedback. But 1 year is defintely gone.

Thousands of our students - and may be more - were completely misled by such controversial videos - and I think someone should raise a voice against such irresponsible youtubers who build an audience on this basis.

You see the final list - last year most of rank 1,2,3,4,5 were people who were writing their first mains ( barring Rank 3, who changed optional from Geog to Anthro). This year you have 3 people in Top 10 who were already selected in IPS. This year out of the 90 folks from NPA who wrote mains, 60+ got selected again - and about 25+ ( will have to verify data , but this is what I have right now ) are improving their ranks!! Such a high number never happened before !! - just because newer people withdrew from exam prep!!

In fact newer candidates completely gave way to older candidates this time so much so that most people who called this year after results were all the same kids who called last year! Times of India for the first time instead of announcing results - wrote a story on repeaters!!

( It was good to see some last year students who got IAS and thus release from the cycle, and my life's best testimonial was from an old student only

... Please note that why I invested so much time in fighting such things is because I genuinely feel that someone writing tests , and reading mgp answers will beat the average crowd - and upsc is a very conventional exam where if you do conventional preparation you clear it - sticking to the old rules of preparation.

And If I am wrong, I will change how we ask students to prepare. We wont do something that does not help people to succeed.

and that is why I compared it to Ocean Gate. The man lead bunch of billionaires to death not because of lack of resources, but because they were misled by one person.

I am glad at least some people were saved. 

thanks for sharing this. You have helped me save effort of "substantiating with data". 

See the students here . Most of these ( but not all ) are last year Interview students with few exceptions. All students who appeared for interview last year were "auto-enrolled" in the mains test series and gs course by this institute without paying fees. i am not going into that debate whether it is right or wrong.  my point is this is what happened this year - newer people were confused to the point that they simply didnt write tests !! All last year students have dominated the final list this time - disproportionately!

... and lastly coaching institutes sharing topper numbers with each other.. so that every institute has the number of toppers - bhai i have not heard this logic  before. What I think is happening is that we may think and overthink a lot of things.

And because we have social media - and we have the highest amount of freedom of speech in human history - and also the highest amount of time at our disposal ever available in human history  ( no more carry drinking water from the well , no more hunting - foraging ) we dump all our thoughts - things that should otherwise be restricted to thoughts and not words.

And on youtube you have many such people to consume such conspiracy theories - they are not even genuine aspirants .

What happened with forum is that we made  whatsapp group of interview students and all 5 rankholders were there. everyone could see the phone number of others. It may have happened that phone numbers may have gotten shared from there. This was not intentional.

My suggestion to you is - unless you are not an agent yourself, dont watch too much crime patrol. Dont make something simple and benign into a conspiracy theory. And at least dont do it on forum. On YT you have people who are very gullible. The audience is much more mature here. Enough number of Mains appeared, interview appeared and finally selected people are here.. so dont do such things..