what is your opinion of satyam jain UNDERSTAND UPSC ?
i just came across video of understand upsc on youtube posted by satyam jain. he is claiming 750 students from his free guidance program, and is saying that all coachings are providing "paid misguidance". since this community is considerably mature with large number of upsc qualified students, interview appearing students, want to know their view..
not posting youtube link here to avoid getting into trouble,, but just search understand upsc..
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And since you have been asking questions - what about this candidate - so Mr Kartik Brahmabhatt as shown in picture above is the typical case of a person coming to Delhi, but sitting in his room and doing what he could have done in his room. With MGP at least he may have written a few hundred answers , and read some very good answers. And even in the absence of evaluation or mentorship, if someone write those many answers and read good content, he would become something.
And its sad because he could not cut the noise on the internet. I will probably meet him after 2 years.
No disrespect sir, but if u knw he will cm to u after 2 years… why did u MK dat video.. don’t burn test series.. do it instead?
Short answer : It impacts our results.
I am going to write a whole essay on this as to why I would make that video in response someday. And no, none of my colleagues or faculty supported my idea of making that video. But for the paucity of time, I will answer this shortly here..
Layman Thinking - It must be impacting their admissions/ revenue / sales
Short Answer.. Because it impacts the performance, career of our students and impacts the selections from the Institute.
You see Civils is a tiresome, sometimes long preparation journey. And there are so many uncertainties. In this, you will need to have a plan and will have to follow it rigorously,/ religiously without an element of doubt. You will need to believe in what you are doing. And if somone comes and disturbs you - you are gone. That whole year is gone.
MGP is a self study program - the onus of the hard work is on the student. You will need a lot of will power, commitment, sincerity and discipline to do MGP. Its not like everyone can do it or everyone can extract value from it.
When you make such video and create doubts in the minds of students, what happens is that students who have enrolled for the program will pay the fees, but wont write the tests. Most people are already fragile in their minds. Even the good ones.
And there will be difference in the preparation and performance of students who have spent, lets say 30-70 hours in test writing ( which would mean 300-400 hours of studying at least ), and someone who has not.
When you tell people that you should not write answers, just because the evaluator may give you average marks, or he is a single cellular organism with no brains, incapable of existing as a human - you end up telling people not to apply their minds to good questions, to great answers, to some great , well written copies, and some very meaningful inputs given by a mentor on your copies. He simply loses one attempt.
Not everyone has the financial and mental capacity to make up for that lost attempt. And I can tell you that while admissions increased, students who were not in Delhi - not connected to a core crowd of serious aspirants - lost all confidence and did not write tests - wasting one complete year.
I am ashamed to say that I , individually did not do enough to fight it - because I allowed the negativity to thrive - convinced that it will filter the crowd to Forum - and thats what we really want.
But it does waste the money, time, career and years of hundreds of students who start doubting the programs they have paid for - and then they do not pursue it as they would have normally done.
Not a single day goes when I dont get a mail such as above.
I am not saying candidates who write tests will clear the civils 100%. But at least they will make progress. And maybe we can catch them when they progress and help them reach the destination. But how can you help , when the person has not made progress in weeks, months and years.
Look, we did not get Rank 1 in ForumIAS when we had thousands of students. We only had 300 students, and we got ranks 1,3,5,7,10 from less than 300 students. And each we knew personally, I am in touch with each one of them.
Today, I want top Ranks in CSE , because we did something to aid their preparation - not because we have thousands of students - so obviously someone will get selected. We want to have a high % contribution in the selection of the student.
That is my mission, and that is my reason.
Will write more on this as and when I get time
I am no knight. Do not call me Sir
@Neyawn Sir, can a student get another OMR sheet in UPSC prelims in face of a mistake?
: )
@Neyawn Sir, can a student get another OMR sheet in UPSC prelims in face of a mistake?
Perhaps not, but
sometimes it solely depends on the invigilator.
And since you have been asking questions - what about this candidate - so Mr Kartik Brahmabhatt as shown in picture above is the typical case of a person coming to Delhi, but sitting in his room and doing what he could have done in his room. With MGP at least he may have written a few hundred answers , and read some very good answers. And even in the absence of evaluation or mentorship, if someone write those many answers and read good content, he would become something.
And its sad because he could not cut the noise on the internet. I will probably meet him after 2 years.
No disrespect sir, but if u knw he will cm to u after 2 years… why did u MK dat video.. don’t burn test series.. do it instead?
Short answer : It impacts our results.
I am going to write a whole essay on this as to why I would make that video in response someday. And no, none of my colleagues or faculty supported my idea of making that video. But for the paucity of time, I will answer this shortly here..
Layman Thinking - It must be impacting their admissions/ revenue / sales
Short Answer.. Because it impacts the performance, career of our students and impacts the selections from the Institute.
You see Civils is a tiresome, sometimes long preparation journey. And there are so many uncertainties. In this, you will need to have a plan and will have to follow it rigorously,/ religiously without an element of doubt. You will need to believe in what you are doing. And if somone comes and disturbs you - you are gone. That whole year is gone.
MGP is a self study program - the onus of the hard work is on the student. You will need a lot of will power, commitment, sincerity and discipline to do MGP. Its not like everyone can do it or everyone can extract value from it.
When you make such video and create doubts in the minds of students, what happens is that students who have enrolled for the program will pay the fees, but wont write the tests. Most people are already fragile in their minds. Even the good ones.
And there will be difference in the preparation and performance of students who have spent, lets say 30-70 hours in test writing ( which would mean 300-400 hours of studying at least ), and someone who has not.
When you tell people that you should not write answers, just because the evaluator may give you average marks, or he is a single cellular organism with no brains, incapable of existing as a human - you end up telling people not to apply their minds to good questions, to great answers, to some great , well written copies, and some very meaningful inputs given by a mentor on your copies. He simply loses one attempt.
Not everyone has the financial and mental capacity to make up for that lost attempt. And I can tell you that while admissions increased, students who were not in Delhi - not connected to a core crowd of serious aspirants - lost all confidence and did not write tests - wasting one complete year.
I am ashamed to say that I , individually did not do enough to fight it - because I allowed the negativity to thrive - convinced that it will filter the crowd to Forum - and thats what we really want.
But it does waste the money, time, career and years of hundreds of students who start doubting the programs they have paid for - and then they do not pursue it as they would have normally done.
Not a single day goes when I dont get a mail such as above.
I am not saying candidates who write tests will clear the civils 100%. But at least they will make progress. And maybe we can catch them when they progress and help them reach the destination. But how can you help , when the person has not made progress in weeks, months and years.
Look, we did not get Rank 1 in ForumIAS when we had thousands of students. We only had 300 students, and we got ranks 1,3,5,7,10 from less than 300 students. And each we knew personally, I am in touch with each one of them.
Today, I want top Ranks in CSE , because we did something to aid their preparation - not because we have thousands of students - so obviously someone will get selected. We want to have a high % contribution in the selection of the student.
That is my mission, and that is my reason.
Will write more on this as and when I get time
Don't mean any disrespect sir.. but where is forum result affected ?? this yr also result is same as last year only.. then hw u draw conclusions that it impacts results..?
@ravisingh2633 what is ur problem? Hv I said sath that u get offended ? I m only asking why am PPL are saying things..let truth cm out in d open..it is for betterment of asprnt commnty.
N y es@Daiichi comment deleted..evn though normally we aren't allwd to delete our cmmnts..
@Neyawn sir, satyam sir hs shared one more dirty secret of coachings that they share the mobile number of toppers among each other.. that's why after selection students start getting calls from all institutes.. why is d truth?
One thing that i don't understand is why are so many people interested in him or such stupid conversations on him. I mean it's simple we pay to forum or vision as we get good quality than other options.. they provide service and we simply pay that's the market logic and then there comes such people on youtube who try to gain views and money by allegations and such videos.. it's true nobody is perfect so it's our choice to pick best among available options. And i think YouTube is indeed helping some but in real it's only 10% like on YouTube 10% channels will teach you Csat but rest 90% will only talk on how csat is bad and not doable for middle town guys or art's wale bachee.. i mean boss sympathy hi bechni hai toh motivation channel khol lo yeh understand and learn kyu lagate ho?
Agar satyam jain thinks he has a good product then talk about it convince people and if his whole strategy is to defame classes and negativity as a way to gain customers then that itself is a warning
And lastly bohot time hai logo ke pass ORN mai adhe guru bs yahi batate rehte hai ki yeh test series aisa hai waisa hai jo khud unhone kisi aur se suna hai aur usne kisi aur se aise gyan dete 3-4 attempts nikal jate hai phir next level ki upsc aisa puchti hai aise hota hai wali research phir khatam pack up...
And then there's 3-4% who actually write tests and improve , revision because they know "jab itna kuch hai padhne ko, kaha time hai bolne ko?"
P.S. Kabhi freedom phone ke baare mai suna hai?
Scam tha (yeh log usko bhi justify kar dete why to pick it over Samsung 😅)
Foolphoton,ravisingh2633@ravisingh2633 what is ur problem? Hv I said sath that u get offended ? I m only asking why am PPL are saying things..let truth cm out in d open..it is for betterment of asprnt commnty.
N y es@Daiichi comment deleted..evn though normally we aren't allwd to delete our cmmnts..
I am not getting offended. You are creating unnecessary hype.
There is no substitute tohard work
Foolphoton,@Neyawn sir
Just saw this. You gave the answer on Twitter
Sharing the verified true profile of Aditya, IAS Rank 1 on twitter.
The Genuine one has 42 followers.
The fake one has 15,000 followers.
That's how life ishttps://t.co/92fs3OerCjpic.twitter.com/jYo3zNmNB4
There is no substitute tohard work
dotttt27,@ravisingh2633 pls do not put things out of context. I do not mean what I dont say , and dont say what I don't mean. Will not be able to answer any further questions on this thread.
I am no knight. Do not call me Sir
dotttt27,
Osho,Foolphoton
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