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Mains 2021 Result declared - In or Out?

First mains ,gave just iasbaba free mock a week before mains and few pyq on my own

In the few mocks I wrote ,I was struggling to complete 17 questions (marks were around 80) due to time constraints

But on the day of exam, I started attempting from 15 m and then 10m in GS ,in essay I just alloted 5 min for structure formation

Surprisingly I completed all questions on time and had 9-10 minutes remaining during which I added any missing terms ,underlining double underlining heading and terms like it's done in school 

I'm sure that neither quality of answers nor handwriting did not go too bad,it was mostly relevant points and legible enough

The person sitting next to me gave a weird look like how the heck  you got time to underline stuff even in Ethics😬

I know the marks cannot be predicted but I'm really afraid on finishing fast my papers although the average content and legible handwriting was there ,did anyone else experience similar surprising powers in exam hall ?
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As attempting all Qns used to be the first of my concerns in exam hall,
I just wrote as fast as I could at that moment

Also starting with 15m and then switching to 10m kind of helped to stick to time

But I'm not sure abt the outcome ,so don't take my suggestion seriously
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True topic selection took a lot of time and I brainstormed initially for real rational but felt helpless beyond major theme ,so quickly switched to wantlessness-chimera and spent maybe 5-6 minute for structure as I felt that I have already wasted good 10 minutes on topic confusion


Points were mostly relevant to the question 🤯 and in finished atleast 5-10 minutes before ,even I was confused on how did that happen for someone who couldn't complete paper on time just a week before exam 


Maybe the pen or ultimate priority to just finish the paper to get average marks , something helped

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Hopefully

Thanks and All the best


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I tried to check individual time  but couldn't follow it fully ,so just made it like 30min tasks to complete for 15 marks and 15 min tasks to complete for 10m


But mostly went with the flow without thinking much or resting in between

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I didn't mean 5 min for both essays combined , I meant to say 5-6 minutes for each one

The issue was that I wasted brainstorming for a topic which I initially thought of writing but ultimately switched to something else

So I just feared time issues and started devising basic dimensions and themes for 5-6 mins and thought i could expand or add as I write

I was so afraid of finishing within time ,I just couldn't allot more time to brainstorming than 5 mins

 I finished the essay paper around 11:35 itself 😬 and now i got freaked for finishing fast because everyone else around me was deeply involved in writing

Maybe the anxiety on writing first mains and essay being the first paper made me do things in a hurry than usual

I wrote basic themes well but I didn't provide proper  continuity between paragraph as I used subheadings approach

Maybe if I had spent more time brainstorming ,I could have made the coherence, continuity aspects well

On GS papers, the content was mostly to point and not very vague ,maybe some questions like WHO air quality ,blue led, gig economy ,bitcoin impact ,I just elaborated on my own after mentioning some basics

PS :pls don't think this as gloating ,I was genuinely anxious to finish on time  & somehow it made me finish earlier 



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@tarun17 yeah
I need to work on that


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@krishna96 Thanks 

All the best👍


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@Bubba_gump this approach actually looks good

Bcoz in GS1 , as I finished my 15 markers and when suddenly switching to 10m, I faced issue with respect to space 

Learning from GS1 ,I made sure that it did not happen in subsequent papers

But as many say ,first question impresses evaluator a lot ,your approach of attempting first 2(10m) and then moving to 15 markers seems ideal


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Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia did the right thing by joining NATO & EU


Despite bordering Russia and its enclave of Kaliningrad , they are free and alive today ,thanks to NATO and EU membership


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@tarun17  Conclusion imo generally is a summary of your answer/way forward

So it's fine to write generic & cliched term if it sums up your points in a succinct manner


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If we assume 3.5 for all 10m and 6 for all 15m


Any gains made in a question over that avg marks will cancel losses in others 

3.5*10+6*10= 95


maybe 100 odd in ethics but 95 looks like an okayish score for GS 1,2,3


Ultimately optional and essay will be the real decider of cutoff etc 


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@Forumite Hopefully 95~ atleast for ppl who have attempted all questions addressing the demand with basic content

But it baffles me when someone says they have left 1 1/2 Qns but still score 100+ , maybe presentation and stats have higher weightage I guess


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@Capedcrusader1 yeah I feel the same

IMO writing some basic one line fact and expanding on it is better than leaving it blank


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HankShradersaid

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The words *addressing the demand with  basic content* are very very subjective.. n most difficult to achieve..


All those who attempt mains should get 95 in all papers by this logic..

Many toppers..like AIR 65.. scored 74 in GS 3 in 2019.. how do we explain that then

Yeah never could generalize but I was just trying to think of an basic threshold


But Even predicting that in mains evaluation seems difficult

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@Forumite summed up perfectly

If by Attempting all questions ,one thinks about quantity alone then it's of no use

Quality difficult to standardize
But a legible writing and relevant content should be considered as basic standard of quality
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Akkkusaid

@Street_lamp No man. 95 is not okayish but a very good score. Probably, one can get rank.


Yeah that's a good score ,I was just surprised to see that how it is basically possible to score 95 yet most couldn't

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@Dip  Wish you good score 

But just out of curiosity ,did u leave ( blue led,who air quality) out of limited time or lack of content or both?

I just wrote bare minimum facts and elaborated on whatever I could guess ,

I am still confused as to whether to leave blank or attempt such Qn
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Ppl with previous experience of mains

How much of variation did you see in actual marksheet from your expected conservative marks?

What/How are you improving on since then?


All the best

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RaGasaid

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 In my limited knowledge, i feel it's difficult for even an experienced person to judge their marks. Yes, in essay and two optional paper one can easily say whether the paper was disastrous or average to good. 

In GS atleast i always got post result/marks wisdom about things that would have gone wrong.

Regarding improvement, it's never easy as one gives attempts, one has to also unlearn while learning new things. So the progress for veterans is based on the combination of-- analysis of previous failures+ energy/positivity for next attempt+ unlearning/learning.


So True 

Thanks for sharing

ATB




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Akkkusaid

@Street_lamp I did try to improve. I felt improvement was there before the exam in how much things were covered, notes made etc. But, I failed to make this improvement do any major improvement in my performance. 😭🤐

Your efforts will yield good results 

ATB👍

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zombielandsaid

Street_lampsaid

Ppl with previous experience of mains

How much of variation did you see in actual marksheet from your expected conservative marks?

What/How are you improving on since then?


All the best

Based on experience of mine and of my few friends ( many loopholes r there. Gaali mt dena):

In gs our marks were near to wat we used to get in vision test series.  ( Full length tests in last month completed in 3hours). Like if one is getting 100 in vision test series then be assured of getting atleast  above 90. 

Similarly if one is getting above 120 in essay test series, there r very high chances of getting above 120 in real exam. Excpetions r  many. Bt i hv seen clear correlation between visionias test marks (as i consider its test series to b most standard) and final marks.

Although there r issues like prelims failed candidates may b checking those copies bt this was my experience.

Yeah vision mocks standard relatively better

Thanks for sharing ur experience

ATB👍

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TheFinalStandsaid

Street_lampsaid

Ppl with previous experience of mains

How much of variation did you see in actual marksheet from your expected conservative marks?

What/How are you improving on since then?


All the best

I have written 5 mains so far..

GS1 and GS4 are always less than expected for me. GS2 and GS3 are usually as expected.

Essay ..my first attempt (2017), i expected 150 , as i believed i wrote  really good essays on agriculture and women(good old days , where no mandatory philosophical topics are there). I got 110, while top score that year is 175. There after my essays got stagnant in range of 125-130, which are more or less on expected lines.

With respect to improvement, my GS and essay scores are almost similar from my 2nd attempt, irrespective of all the value additions, answer writing practice etc etc. Average marks in GS2 and GS3, below average in GS1 and GS4 .


If my optional clicks..i used to get interview call or if it tanks i couldn't clear mains. And i could never predict my optional score since it's humanities. It fell down from 280(2018) to 210 (2019) to 250(2020)


With increasing attempts the variation between your expectations and actual scores reduce, atleast for GS. Optional tho.. Only God knows .😂



Thanks for writing a detailed explanation

Mains evaluation looks like complex phenomenon


💯 to your perseverance ,Your efforts should ultimately help you sail through 

ATB 👍



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Doubt regarding statistical error committed in exam,

In 14FFC Qn ,I wrote 41% share instead of 42%  ,confused after reading in news the Kashmir 1% devolution etc in 15FFC

In S400 ,I have written 600km defence radius etc in a guesswork

In WHO AQ ,in addition to writing facts on Particulate matter details I wrote Lead etc as key pollutants 

I might have even written these in black 

Based on previous experience/test series exp , What would be the maximum reduction if one writes such erroneous data?

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Thanks@Capedcrusader1 @zombieland for giving hope


@Duryodhan 

I was completely clueless and  have written some random generic things in Earn while you learn Qn ,so I guess I can relate 

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tarun17said

Street_lampsaid

Thanks@Capedcrusader1 @zombieland for giving hope


@Duryodhan 

I was completely clueless and  have written some random generic things in Earn while you learn Qn ,so I guess I can relate 

I have written Apprenticeship scheme & vocational edctn issues and skill development schemes for "Earn while learn" Qn 


Even mention TULIP internship scheme of MoHUA but nowhere did I mention anything related to Ministry of Tourism scheme (i had no clue)


IMO it's one of the direct yet  complex questions in mains 2021

You have written some related points to that Qn , ATB 👍

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Arun_yuvarajsaid

Thankfully the break between two sessions of mains exam are limited 

Had a weird scary dream 🥴

 After having done first session of exam  ,I have gone to my room to have lunch and then accidentally slept till 3:00pm , regretting it and somehow surviving with that guilt 

Anxiety 🤯 after checking results TG  must have messed up with college memories of quitting final term exams after having required mark in first two terms exams


😂😂😅

Engineering term exams?

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From soon to "To soon"
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Any computer science engineering graduate ,let's share if we come across some quick reviser of grad subject
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D503said

Duryodhansaid

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Koi notes h kya ?? 

EEE branch ??

notes toh nhi hai kuch blog hai whi dekhe or Wikipedia kar lia

http://rasdsparmar.blogspot.com/2017/08/ras-ias-upsc-ece-electronics-and.html


https://placement.freshersworld.com/electronics-interview-questions/33121838


Thanks

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krishna96said

Street_lampsaid

Any computer science engineering graduate ,let's share if we come across some quick reviser of grad subject

I am...OS architecture,meta ,blockchain and basics of networking..what do you think

We can add to it 

Artificial intelligence, Cybersecurity aspects as it's in news frequently

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Individual agency is often sidelined at the behest of religious, traditional & institutional compulsions

Atleast with institutional compulsion, we do it voluntarily through some contract

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Pam123said

I can’t see the notice anymore. Kisiko dikh raha hai?

https://www.upsc.gov.in/whats-new/Civil%20Services%20%28Main%29%20Examination%2C%202021/Notice 



I am able to access the notice here



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Pam123said

Street_lampsaid

Pam123said

I can’t see the notice anymore. Kisiko dikh raha hai?

https://www.upsc.gov.in/whats-new/Civil%20Services%20%28Main%29%20Examination%2C%202021/Notice 



I am able to access the notice here



I have cleared the cookies. And the link you’ve provided doesn’t give the notice anymore to me. So i guess results can come anyday now

Ok 

ATB

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Pam123said

Street_lampsaid

Pam123said

Street_lampsaid

Pam123said

I can’t see the notice anymore. Kisiko dikh raha hai?

https://www.upsc.gov.in/whats-new/Civil%20Services%20%28Main%29%20Examination%2C%202021/Notice 



I am able to access the notice here



I have cleared the cookies. And the link you’ve provided doesn’t give the notice anymore to me. So i guess results can come anyday now

Ok 

ATB

I hope you are not being sarcastic. Because the whole notice situation is so confusing, that’s why I asked. 


Anyway All the best to you too 🙌🙌 , whenever the results come. 

No yaar 


I just wished well ,even I'm confused so didn't know what to say further



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Someone here rightly mentioned that Saxena ji final post is the sign to look out for

In his final post, he mentioned "anyday ,too soon"
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Out
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Pdf??
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Stay strong

Good luck for your future friend



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