Mains 2021 Result declared - In or Out?

Bhai Maine socha shayad burzahom ka koi connection hoga isliye wo likh aya...lol..

Waise abhi dekha akhnoor is also under consideration lekin wo bhi Manda jitnA hi door hai...wo bhi Manda strike karke ..

To all the history optional ppl, how was it?

I felt it was general and vague, P1 was lengthy i felt. 

I have relatively less knowhow of how history marking is these days, i had history earlier but for last two mains i had anthropology as optional, switched back to history this time.

I just have a specific question regarding marking. Purely based on the feeling of how paper went, is the final score mildly varying or wildly? I know it's a less rewarding subject but is the final score in optional very fluctuating?

Dint we all write essay papers😆

I wanna ask u guys regarding exam condition this time around... My centre was in mumbai and in my room about 24 candidates were there, of them about 4-5 had constant cough. On the last day it was quite funny as most of them were coughing which seemed co ordinated. 

Anyways, since after the day of exam I fell ill and with symptoms mostly similar to omicron i dint get tested assuming I was in a hotspot and likely to contract it. Been confined to bed with no breathing difficulty but fever and body ache. Is anyone out there in a similar situation?

I actually had been taking meds(pcm) since essay paper just to be in the safer side, but by the time gs4 was finished i definitely had fever, and if all mumbai guys would remember those were some of the coldest days in recorded history of Mumbai. 

On the day of language paper for English we were reverted back to original seating arrangement as gs papers the week earlier at Sion centre, there one person who had given gs papers was missing, i presumed must be coz of illness. The upsc under the guise of greater public good has actually made a common fodder out of them.

On the day of my optional paper a guy sitting next to me on the adjusant row was coughing so bad that was disturbing the flow of thoughts but to be fair to to him poor guy had a bottle of warm water which he slipped every 5 mins to stopp coughing. I don't know if he completed the paper coz he seemed fairly disturbed too.

I guess by the end of the exam none of us really cared about health all that was needed was to complete the paper somehow !!

I really could not understand but many people insisted on fans early in the morning..

Papers to theek the lekin marks to bas upsc batayega😆

I don't know bout others but i have always seen a clerk in SBI or nurse in government hospital give 100% and working a bit more than working hours. Never thought they wanted to earn money without working as above mentioned post try to convey. 

Most of the psu or govt ills is because of management decisions or lack of quick decisions. The average employee is really a pawn. The places where govt decided to give autonomy many sectors worked really well, for eg ongc which was pretty profitable until 2019 when govt decided to transfer surplus capital to self which left ongc with no cash to invest, you can see where things are going now. The process of governance doesn't have integrity, as they just treat profit making psu as personal fief and impose decisions without any long term considerations.

But has privatisation worked in India? Private investment in media is a best example, what is the status of private media is for everyone to see. What about it sector?? 

There is a reason why Indians have high hopes in government sector jobs, because it has stability, despite salary being low and working condition not upto the mark. The big tragedy of our times is that none of us are skilled beyond rudimentary graduation level skills and many of us are hopelessly inflexible to learn new skills.

PS: unfortunately not the way an aspirant should be looking the problems but this is what I feel it is.

In 2019, i was confident of gs 1, was hoping to get 95, instead got 65, gs 2 went pathetic was expecting 60-70 and got 65 here too. There is simply no way I still can't compare how both the papers got similar marks. 

But i have learnt one thing, that it's useless to think about marks once it's over. Sometimes feeling of elation after attempting may also be false. Better to simply focus on the task ahead and work for that, ie pre and interview prep, but we all know it's easier said than done.

There is a saying, if u don't like the show change the channel, similarly if u don't like a view choose to ignore it.

Baki i don't wish ki sabhi fail ho..

Aap apne peace me raho hum apne peace me khush.

I have written both the essays with heading and sub heading. Actually in the past i too had a similar opinion, about breaking the flow and all. I had 142 in 2017 and 122 in 2019. In 2019 2nd essay was screwed as I had spent so much time on VALUE wala essay that in the end i had to rush. So 2nd essay was about 6 - 7 pages with a hasty conclusion and all technical point on education/ health topic.

This time I had gone through videos of essay classes by shabbir sir, vision ias ( available on some Tele channels) both of which actively encouraged subheadings. * This time I've followed the advise of coaching walas and written with subheadings. I cant award myself any marks, but both the essays felt pretty decent after writing, even regarding subheadings i dint feel much different than normal. 

Reading the conversation here makes me wonder if heading / subheading does affect our final marks. 

It's natural, thats why only trust that feeling which u had immediately after the exam. 

I will be honest here, but I really didn’t recall having seen this question until I saw the paper again.

I hope as u say gs 1&4 is marked liberally

That was something, me too thought It might get postponed esp on the final day of argument before essay paper, i was reading the arguments on livelaw and thinking it might get Postponed. Wasted a total of 5-6 hours that day, despite knowing postpone was very unlikely.

Kabhi aisa hi jaye ki history ki chappar phad ke lottery lagi Jaye ..kisi zamane me(2012) jaise Pali literature walo ki lagi thi..😸

I hope everyone gets 2 marks for that map point in Kashmir. 

"Easily cross 250" wali soch bohot hi misleading hai, i crossed from history to anthro then back here simply coz mujhe anthro thoda bhi nahi jama. One funny thing is I use to write those qs in p2 anthro well which had history related aspects, like Neolithic, Harappan (asked in 2019), baki i just worte... 

😹😹

Best compensation would be bhar bhar baato... 

Maine bhi chhodd diya tha ...last 1 min me jab paper collect karna shuru hua tab I wrote burzahom, waha pe ek Harappan pottery mili this shayad, so I wrote that quickly...

Bahar aake dekha to pata laga ki poonch me ASI had started searching for evidence of ivc in 2019 but later there is no news.. but it's very unlikely ki correct ho, baki hopefully kuch to marks mile is baat ke ki site hi wrong hai

Same here, main bhi ethics ke baad feverish Ho Gaya tha, 2 din barbaad ho gaye the.. iam sure ye jo 50% covid related symptoms wala survey hai wo ki jagah bhi itni hi proportion me true rahega..

Bhai history hai ya nahi kyu nahi poocha😹😸?

This is the irony, tell me guys with history optional who do really well in gs 1, dunno maybe we ppl write really detailed answers or something, but there is errie correlation

You are a pretty optimistic person, and especially for a sceptical person for me, it will drive my notional scores upwards when I open the calculator again 😹😆

I do hope u realise your dream..

There is ambiguity regarding access to DAF, some say they only get to have summary sheet, but it would correct to assume they have access to your entire DAF.

Iam not aware of the process in recent years but I believe candidates were called in such a way that gen cat competed the interview process first and later others, this i had read on quora.

That is why I wrote "not aware of the process in recent years" 

So if it's not category wise then it must be region wise then. Thanks for correction btw

I guess it is highly faulty to compare Hitler and Putin, Hitler belonged to a different era which was nearing its end- the era of imperialism and colonialism. His policy was essentially expansionist towards the east, he was softer(comparatively) towards France and UK and ultimately, the concept of total war was quite widely applied in initial years to the Eastern front, thats why we have records of attrocities in Poland, Soviet republics, eastern Europe and not in France.

Putin on the other hand is fighting this as a defensive war, Ukraine has been marred with various revolutions in the past 20 years. Essentially Ukraine is divided east and west along political lines, west Ukraine favours close contact( business and military) with the western countries while east U favours it's old ties with Russia and old Soviet nations.

2004- orange revolution, pro west yanukovich(pardon spellings here) won after reelection was ordered.

2010- new president yanukovich was elevated with pro Russian leanings

2014- euromaiden protests were organised, and democratically elected govt was outsted. Reason was yanukovich dint agree to sign economic agreement for close association with EU while stopping eco agreement already in place with Russia. (It is said that it was widely supported by the western Intel agencies- if we see wiki pages this is called revolution of dignity).

2014 Russo-Ukraine war essentially a response to this 'coup', leading to annexation of Crimea, as Russia feared losing access to the black sea if Ukraine entered EU and subsequently NATO.

Now the existence of NATO itself is questionable since cold war ended, in addition steady expansion of NATO eastwards has been seen to be a threat to Russia.

The present war is in the background that Ukraine has been seeking membership of EU and NATO, though it hasn't been granted. Now if NATO gains access to Ukraine where does it leave Russia? It will have missiles pointing at Moscow which could reach it within 5-7 mins. Does that sound like Russia should allow that to happen?? We(Indians) are concerned about Chinese string of pearls for precisely this reason - to have an enemy up so close and at multiple points.

There is a precedent like this in history too, 1962 -cuban missile crisis. Where Soviets placed nuclear missiles in Cuba, in response to NATO nuclear missiles in Italy and Turkey. By logic if USA had an agreement with turkey and Italy to place missiles which were sovereign nations then so did Soviet union and Cuba, hence no nation should have problen. But USA precipitated nuclear crisis to prevent nuclear weapons within 90miles of it's coast. The fact is no great powers like to have interference within its sphere of influence. And in Europe, which has primarily based it's inter-country relations on the concept of Balance of power since the French revolution, loss of Ukraine's neutrality will lead to dangerous weakening of Russia.

I don't think Russia is wrong in its security  concerns, i don't think war was not an option either. It is a calculated risk, just like Hitler had thought of quick victory in 1941, his famous words were " we just need to knock the door and the whole communist structure would come stumbling down", Putin is hoping for a quick victory and change of Ukraine govt and some security aggreements. Let's see how it plays out.

While we may profess sovereignty, democracy and peaceful negotiations , the game is far bigger here than that.

We Indians should rather protect our interests which are at the moment with Russia and quite proudly advocate "kadi ninda" than go for grandstanding and lose a valuable ally.

Upar Kuch jyada hi bada likh dala hai ..lekin ek baar padh lena dosto 🤭

Accha mazaak hai...comments likhne me aur essay me antar hota hai, isliye to 122 aye the last mains me 😹😹

Kitab mat padho Bhai YouTube pe history sunte raho aur wiki padh lo

Meri life ab keval twitter aur forum tak hi seemit ho gayi hai...

Hypothetical question ❓

Suppose this war gets out of control, and nuclear bomb is detonated by Russia over Ukraine and NATO ups the ante and there is a full blown crisis of nuclear world war ( Russian foreign minister threatened the same today) and in this scenario suppose result is declared and we have interview scheduled during the period of this crisis ( now please don't use ifs and buts that upsc won't conduct interviews in this scenario, coz pls remember this is a hypothetical scenario) the question iswould you appear for the interview ?

** I was just thinking after reading that statement and i sincerely hope such scenario never happens to the world or to us. So pls don't troll me for asking this question.

Answer from my side- i probably would if transport from my city is available.

Yaar Maine jo likha usme bhi trigger ho gaye 😹😹😸

🙄🙄

Ganguly sits in selection committee meetings which is in violation of BCCI rules. 

https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/ganguly-oversteps-crease-rules-sit-selection-meetings-7800038/

I was going through question papers today. Gs 2 & 3 just hit differently..

Aisa lag raha hai 70 bhi nahi ayenge..😥

Forum ke metric ke hisab se  rakha hai bhai.. like 6 to 6.5 /15 & 3.5-4/10 for the better answer.

Matlab jo mujhe mere answers best lagte the wo.

capdecrusader gs 2 I honestly don’t remember but IR ka ek qs chut Gaya, gs3 abt air quality, blue led and gdp qs blanked hai

Bilkul milte honge kyuki 40% can only get u 100 max out of 250, isliye 7-8 milte hi honge to get 120-130.

Lekin Bhai multiple failure hone ke baad pessimism thoda jyda badh jati hai, isliye iam assessing myself conservatively.

She is that unlucky person who got top 100 rank but still couldn't be appointed

Leaving her court case aside, it must be truly heart wrecking to get a under 70 rank, join the academy and get called back to be told about cancellation of candidature.

I wonder if she would have appeared again, who knows she might just get a rank this time.

Ye itna sab pata kaise chal gaya tum logo ko🤔

Sabka near about yahi haal hai.. lekin isme bhi kuch aise log rahenge jinhone accha answer likha hoga in saare qs bas wohi curve ke aage honge aur hum sab average me aa jayenge

I can't understand how people calculate their gs 4 score.

I never got what i calculated or even closeby that score, the only time It exceeded my expectations was in 2019 when I got 107 but topper was at 160 😹

Result jab bhi ana ho aa jaye lekin apana naam rahe bas..

llustration means suitable example/anecdote bringing out the meaning of the term?

Edit: The definition of an illustration isa picture or a drawing or the act of creating the drawing, or is an example used to explain or prove something. An example of an illustration is a picture accompanying a magazine article.

So technically both are true, but did people draw diagram of some sorts to explain? 

@Akkku ye to dictionary meaning nikala hai maine Google karke... Maine bhi examples hi likhe hai jitne yaad aye.

In my opinion these seminars try to give the best possible answers but they are far away from reality of a student writing in exam conditions. 

" Assistant professors are always asking to borrow money.  Even their children don't think much of them. That's the ugly truth"

1. Bhai wo asst professor hai, his payment is guarded by ugc rules and they do get pretty good payment.

2.They have their own sphere of influence, those who learn and gather knowledge from them respect them a lot. 

3. "Even their children do not think much of them" ? Seriously?? 

My prediction is if election result goes against the ruling party then this issue would be considered sympathetically, If they win then upsc won't agree and no chance would be granted.

Intelligent petition, if the government denies them special exam which they will obviously then extra attempt for future becomes relevant.

😹😹😹

Two govt employees arguing ...

Meanwhile unemployed and semi employed like us trying to get into service🤭

Didn't actually join it, but watched available recent videos on TG, smriti Shah mam takes the classes and she is pretty good at it. I particularly liked the abstract topics wala lecture, others were great too. 

If one joins in, the added advantage could be feedback on the assignments and tests which is definitely great.

I watched those lectures one month before mains and didn't join any tests series for essay.

Ye wala insect to definitely yes

 In my limited knowledge, i feel it's difficult for even an experienced person to judge their marks. Yes, in essay and two optional paper one can easily say whether the paper was disastrous or average to good. 

In GS atleast i always got post result/marks wisdom about things that would have gone wrong.

Regarding improvement, it's never easy as one gives attempts, one has to also unlearn while learning new things. So the progress for veterans is based on the combination of-- analysis of previous failures+ energy/positivity for next attempt+ unlearning/learning.

Other optional guys after reading RR of history optional guys be like... 😹😸

H https://t.me/cse20marks

Yaha pe marks milenge history walon ke...ek 300 wala fir seedhe 240-250 me hai and then lower and lower...

Still history Wale bohot Kam hai jinhone marks share kiye hai, dunno why. Sample is also an issue in all of this i guess.

Edit : i do not see anyone even with disastrous performance below 200 .

Apne Wale se accha hi lag raha...

Anthro me bohot crowd hai jo na jyada soche samjhe optional le leta hai.

Anthro me bhi logo ki lagti hai bas jinko acche se aata hai unke marks bhar bhar ke aate hai..

Sahi choice ki hai bhai...socio/anthro me answers likhna is not a very easy thing...ye extreme marks isi wajah se ate hai... Switch karo to theek se samjh ke karo, else we are just another statistic.

Pehle bata do ki tum history Wale to nahi ho...

Kyuki Maine yahi dekha hai ki jo aisa wish karta hai usi ke optional ki lagg jati hai 😹😹

PS: waise anthro walo ke maze pattern change hone ke baad se hi hue hai.. 2013 ke baad kyuki shayad pehle do optional era me socio-anthro, history-anthro allowed nahi tha.

Main nahi tha last year ...to koi aur bataye to samjhe..

😹😹😹

Kaddu nahi khana

Yaar ye call to aa hi jayega ke baad , jab nahi ata to bohot bura  lagta hai

Ye prob Meri bhi hai… samjh nahi ata ki kya galati hui hai

I personally think geography jo 100 marks ka hota hai use ignore kiya tha Maine , esp prelims ke baad.. society ka to answer kaise likha jaye yahi Mayne rakhta hai …nahi to content me sab kuch na kuch pel dete hai decent reading ke baad.

Here i don't understand one thing, suppose someone with rank 76 belongs to sc category, so he cleared in UR , right?

In cadre allocation would he be alloted acc to those that remain under UR after allocation to all the 75 above him? Or will he be allocated according to cadre available in category ?

Aisa hai to mare hue ko aur marenge😹

Dekha hi nahi bhai...Indian express aur twitter pe hi dekha sab

Koi consequences nahi hone bhai😹😹

I think P1 a bit lengthy, ancient wasn't that straight forward.

10 marker of medieval were relatively better this time

World history was a bit tricky..probing a bit deeper, i felt

Bhai must have been that they had less time to transfer to boundariless map before printing in 2020, else everytime it has been like this year only.

Kal ka discussion padh ke lag raha hai history ko is saal bhi kam marks milenge..

Jab paper hi easy tha to marks sabke ayenge and fir scaling se kam bhi honge..